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February 10, 2013


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I don't quite know how it happened that exactly tonight the idea for creating a post like this crept up to me, and the longer I think of it I see no particular reason either. it's one of these things that rambles in the back of your mind for long enough, yet you're never too aware of it ... and all of the sudden it bursts out to the world, or it is willing to, and you are the one to choose if you want that to be.
now I've been on this website for long enough and it's either me or the website that changed in order for me to feel about it the way I do; even though I believe it is not quite the latter. I remember these times where I adored this website and it meant so much to me so I ended up spending ages browsing the width of galleries and art we have on here; now that hasn't changed, I'm still fascinated by some things that I find.
yet what something inside of me started to think is that this place has become yet another place that just scratches along the surface and doesn't dig deeper into it .. the signs are everywhere. god forbid the front-page which has never been more than pure commercialized or "cute art", also the eagerness of people to comment which often results in two-word-compliments rather than critique which merely has the purpose to remind us of their existence rather than actually commenting on the art, I also see it in the title of groups "hotmenandboys" or "morethan200favorites" or "getattention" or "iamjustonthiswebsitetobeadored", and eventually in a lot of polls that end up sounding like "I am not sure if you like what I do, so what do you prefer, naked girls or cardbox men with bokeh? whatever you choose, I'll do more of it because I don't do art for myself but for you"

I know this sounds very harsh. I don't intend to insult specific people, but just to point out the general attitude that I find on here. I just want to remind all of you of something; "art" is an expression of thought. it's not to be adored. it's not to please people. it's not to receive attention. alright, who am I to say that, some of you might say that I have "no right to say that because you have like a gazillion of watchers" ... but what do I need hundred people merely pressing a button? to those of you who still write; who take the time to look at something, to think about it and to get inspired; I want you to know that what you are doing is very appreciated, and what matters when it comes to art. of course having people look at your art is good - but a number won't measure its value.

just keep in mind that art is not something to consume but something to appreciate and to get in touch with. try to look beyond things. try to understand.
even if seemingly no one loves what you do; as long as you love it, it will be true. and you do not need to depend on what anyone says.

some people on here give me hope, and that may be the reason why I am staying. or because this website made me to who I am today.
also a great shout-out to BeauCyphre for never staying quiet about things.
all of you, take care.
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dandelion-sound Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2013
You give hope. I eventually recalled why I wanted to do so many things. And that everything can be easier now. Honestly thank You.
TheKnell Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2013   Writer
I agree with you wholeheartedly and commend you for your positive outlook at the end of your post.
organblower Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I agree with much of what you perceive. I think it is important not to assign blame to the site or to the bronies, and certainly not to ourselves. Consider it more as evolution. I belong to other internet sites and have since the early 90's back in the bulletin board days before the www.

I feel if one can make a connection with two or three people on a site, they are doing well. I watch 153 people and co-incidentally 153 people watch me. They aren't the same 153 either although certainly many are. This is very funny considering the journal I did a couple of weeks ago! Out of the 153 I watch, there are definitely three who would be a personal loss if they left. One is quite young but is also perhaps the most inspirational artist I follow.

I'm glad you are staying, to read this Nicolas.
organblower Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
my bad, misspelling your name. Nikolas
ContagiousPixie Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2013  Professional Photographer
I feel the exact. same. way. As well as with red-moon-rabbit's comments

I never have any motivation to upload either. Probably because I can't upload multiple like I can on fb and flickr.
I don't feel the same appreciation here at times. Less people view my work on flickr and fb, but I feel the love for
it far more often.
APPLE009ZORRO Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013
Thank you for reminding the meaning of art! I learnt a lot!:handshake:
sydneytyler Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Though I still love dA too much to leave permanently, I couldn't agree with you more wholeheartedly.
TheStonefooted Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I agree with you for the most part. DeviantArt's community produces enormous sums of art that caters to an archetype or theme that's easy to sell. I agree that these mass produced images are consumed sooner than they're appreciated, and that they're often produced with more selfish ideas in mind than simply having the art witnessed. I believe, though, that the matter is a bit more complicated than simply mass-produced media usurping the labor of artists. The the face of DA, today, doesn't provide the stimulation that intrigues you, but it that's not a reason to refuse it the title of art.

When generic, ill-written poetry or pose, for example, earns an immense emotional response, it's because the writer has used terms perhaps so inapt that any other amateur would've used the same. The thousands who haven't learned to think as poets can likewise read the words and reap the emotional context that produced them. At least, if they've felt the same feelings at some point. It's odd to think that the sheer poverty of a work can make it effective, but that's what happens, and I think that that's beautiful. I can't appreciate the written works in question, but those who can can and do feel close enough to found cultures. This is why the pastel/furry/punk/lolita/whatever communities that compose so much of DA are produce so much of its art aren't collectives of DA's greatest visionaries or technicians. In these cultures, anyone with a personality and the will to express it can become attract people to relate to, plus help all those people relate through himself. Just as much, anyone who's kept strong feelings to himself and isn't sure how to aptly express them can find others who feel the same way. If this isn't art in action, I don't know what is.

I know it doesn't cater to you, or even myself. I'm always looking for more inventive works, such as your own, Nikolas. But what DA is now is still important in its own way.
xSakuraChu Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Reading this was a bit of a slap in the face to me. Most times, I just don't have much to say, yet I really do appreciate the art that others contribute to the site, whether or not they have 1, 100, or 1,00 watchers. That's not the important part to me. Before the account I currently have, I was on dA a while back, and I do see the differences that you're pointing out. However, there are still people that I genuinely adore here and that are pretty much friends of mine, though we haven't met face to face. There's also the fact that I don't really know any other art sharing websites where people wouldn't save my photos and declare it as their own. Anyway, I'm not trying to justify my lack of words, and seeing this makes me want to take more time before I just go and comment on someone's work.
elizabethzelia Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Student General Artist
This is a really interesting dialogue that you've opened up, and I do agree with you 100%, and I feel that this is something a vast majority of the community who have been here for at least 3-4 years have been feeling. But one thing you haven't addressed/thought of is that the whole attention seeking thing is actually more tragic than it is annoying. By being on dA for many years (on another account), I've seen many and most people here who classify themselves as unsocial and alone in real life, so they seek attention through the internet and especially dA where it's so easy to find people share the same interests as you. So while it may be annoying, it's something that can be found literally everywhere, and actually I think tumblr is a much, much worse place for the sheer number attention seekers and the only difference between the sites is the filtration and personalization of what you have on tumblr. Plus, with dA, we're dealing with the biggest art website and any website that grows to be "the biggest" always tends to have more negatives found than positives just based on the sheer number and diversity of people (meaning having to, sadly, see an influx of cutesy art and porn-centered groups). And the whole thing with the front page is the worst feature of dA, yes, and we should really be pointing the finger at the designers and developers of the website, because I've noticed in the last year especially the front page has brought forth the worst/commercialized art to the foreground. I think if they developed the front page to be unique for each person, based on their interests, then dA would be a completely different and better place. I hope you don't think I'm talking down to you, because I really do agree with you, it just saddens me to see people leave the site especially when we can all agree that we have had some fantastic experiences on here (which is what kept us coming back) and if we do continue to leave, than we can never expect the site to get better. You're a real gem, Nikolas.
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